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By Evil Cloaked User (Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 12:54:07 PM EST) (all tags)
Got a call last night from a guy who was having broadband woes. As support calls go, it was a bit strange.


The guy had gotten DSL from Eircom, and initially, it seemed to work ok, but then it died. And came back, died again. Up, down, up, down, up, down, down, down, down. Dead.

He called Eircom support, got through to India, pulled cables, moved the computer to near a different phone point etc. The usual stuff. Eventually, the support guy said he'd send out a technician.

The technician got their yesterday, but unfortunately, the guy visiting his brother in the hospital at the time. His wife let the tech in who checked signal levels at various points and ended up re-cabling the section from the outside connection to the internal phone point. Signal level came back to a decent level, all good.

The chap arrives home from the hospital, notes that the DSL light on the modem is now on. Good stuff. Unfortunately, the LAN lights are all out. So he tries each LAN port on the modem, but to no avail. Next, he goes wiggling the cable at the NIC connector. It blinks. Windows tells him he's connected. Not connected. Connected, etc.

It's at this point that the guy calls me. He says he's not that up on computers and whilst he's pretty sure it's the computer's network card that's dead, he doesn't know if that's the sort of thing that can be replaced, hence his call to me.

The thing that was strange about the call in my mind, is the fact that the guy didn't simply call me at the first hurdle. It's unusual in and of itself to deal with someone who isn't a complete idiot, but when the guy who went through all of this debug and found the exact root cause is my 83 year old grandfather, then I think that deserves a shout out.
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Please tell me by Herring (4.00 / 1) #1 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 12:57:41 PM EST
it's not a Linksys router and the ethernet connection stays up if you switch the NIC to 10Mb half-duplex....

Not that I've been there or anything.

I'm English, and as such I crave disappointment. - Bill Bailey


Dunno. by Evil Cloaked User (4.00 / 1) #4 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 01:27:55 PM EST
My grandad neglected to mention his duplex settings - how out of character for him...


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Still, I think most of the problem is just a mental hurdle to overcome, - Cloaked User
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Hey 1990s, by ambrosen (2.00 / 0) #8 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 01:46:37 PM EST
we missed you. ;)

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I guess I don't get it by theboz (2.00 / 0) #2 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 01:17:15 PM EST
How was it your grandfather's fault?
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That's what I always say about you, boz, you have a good memory for random facts about pussy. -- joh3n


It wasn't. by Evil Cloaked User (4.00 / 1) #3 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 01:26:58 PM EST
The point of the story was that my grandad's an incredible guy to be able to do at his age, and with his limited exposure to computers, what most people who've grown up with the damn things would never even consider attempting.


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Still, I think most of the problem is just a mental hurdle to overcome, - Cloaked User
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Who's at Fault by ayrlander (2.00 / 0) #5 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 01:34:26 PM EST
I got confused with the sentence: "but when the guy who went through all of this debug and found the exact root cause is my 83 year old grandfather," as opposed to "the guy who went through all of this debug ... is my 83 year old grandfather."  I was trying to figure out what he did to your poor customer with the DSL problems....

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That's what I thought too by theboz (2.00 / 0) #6 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 01:42:28 PM EST
It read to me like ECU was saying his grandfather was an evil hax0r or had been at his neighbor's house who just happened to be this guy and screwed something up, or something like that.
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j00 h4v3 b33n h4x3d 13y 93r147r1c! [nt] by debacle (4.00 / 1) #12 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 05:02:07 PM EST


"I'm very responsive to certain stimuli, and pain is pretty much at the top of that list." - BadDoggie

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self reliance by Merekat (4.00 / 1) #17 Fri Mar 23, 2007 at 05:24:24 AM EST
I see it more in older people.

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...and tonight I'm cleaning ZLOB off of my by greyrat (4.00 / 1) #7 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 01:46:00 PM EST
brother-in-laws system. Or trying to. If it was mine, I'd just core it at this point.

He'll click on anything on the Internet. After all, it's all true! Feh.

I salute your grandfather.
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There is absolutely no correlation or causation amongst intelligence, power, talent and wealth.
Kha-Nyou


I know a guy by yicky yacky (4.00 / 1) #9 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 01:58:49 PM EST

who's replaced three computers because they gradually became unusable through various security settings which weren't, various firewalls unerected, various dangers un-turned-off and random clicking on the internet.

It's as if the mental model is more like that of clothes: as you use them, they naturally get crufty, and so you get some more. The idea that you might be able to de-cruftify them, or that cruftification may be almost 100% preventable doesn't seem to occur.

If you get him talking about it, he'll go into a inane and "knowing" rant about the way computers are, which gets funnier the longer it goes on, as the idea that the problem might be him hasn't occurred, and possibly cannot. If he won't listen to two people trying to teach him the truth / right way of doing things in an understanding, gentle and gradual manner, you can be sure he can't be arsed reading a manual. Not a blood relative; an in-law.

I've given up now and just pick up his cast-offs on the premise I might be able to "salvage something" (like the entire effing machine). Still: Free servers.


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Its been in the washingtonpost by wumpus (2.00 / 0) #13 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 05:57:33 PM EST
and either both the writer and editor decided not to mention that buying a new (windows) machine might be sub-optimal for noobs who still don't know why they got slimed, or nobody knew.

Wumpus

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What's "ZLOB"? by ammoniacal (2.00 / 0) #15 Fri Mar 23, 2007 at 12:07:37 AM EST
Let him know that the Mac-Aid tastes fine.

Irony: ammo says it's time. Tom is blocked.
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He's not got the money for a Mac. And everything by greyrat (4.00 / 1) #18 Fri Mar 23, 2007 at 07:43:03 AM EST
he knows and works with is Winders. I might try to steer him to Ubuntu Linux, but I'll need a maintenance contract agreement from him -- I'm still cheaper than Mac-Aid.
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There is absolutely no correlation or causation amongst intelligence, power, talent and wealth.
Kha-Nyou
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Oh, and I forgot the link: by greyrat (4.00 / 1) #19 Fri Mar 23, 2007 at 07:44:26 AM EST
for ZLOB. He must have worked pretty hard to get it loaded on his system.
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There is absolutely no correlation or causation amongst intelligence, power, talent and wealth.
Kha-Nyou
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A+++ by clock (4.00 / 2) #10 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 02:16:02 PM EST
i can only dream of being that sharp by then.  good on him!


Clock is right. [nt] --vorheesleatherface



don't be too surprised by alprazolam (4.00 / 1) #11 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 02:53:56 PM EST
my 7....78? year old grandpa has a relatively new computer, digital camera, and a subscription to "smart computing" or something like that. hell he probably knows more about computers than i do. at least the type of computer that works and stuff.



Y'know by Dr Thrustgood (4.00 / 1) #14 Thu Mar 22, 2007 at 06:37:10 PM EST
I've found that those over 60 are fine with computers. It's those that don't work in IT and are aged over 35 that I find have the biggest problems with computers.

Is strange.





Makes sense by Phage (4.00 / 1) #16 Fri Mar 23, 2007 at 04:54:05 AM EST
Those in the 60+ bracket know they have to make an effort to learn a new tool.
Those below this bracket believe that 'gadgets' should 'just work' with little or no user input or knowledge.

Founder member Golgafrinchan 'B' Ark
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